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האם אפשר לגלות את סיב האופטי הדק של כטב״מ מונחה-סיב?

Fiber-guided FPV drones trail an ultra-thin glass fiber — no radio, so RF detection is blind. This is an honest, cited survey of whether we can detect the line itself: the physics, the real prior art, the range limits, and the cheap experiments a maker can run this weekend.

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No radio. Just light in glass.

Fiber-optic-guided FPV drones (FOG-D) — now the dominant short-range threat in Ukraine, and reportedly fielded by Hezbollah — carry their video and control as light traveling inside a hair-thin glass fiber, not as radio in the air. There is no RF emission, so jammers, RF sniffers and direction-finders are blind to them by design. The detection conversation has therefore moved to the drone's physical signatures — and to one question almost nobody has seriously attacked: can we detect the fiber itself?

If we can see, range, or sense the trailing line, we get something no other sensor offers: a vector that points back toward the operator, and an unambiguous “fiber-guided” classification. That is the breakthrough this page evaluates — and we report honestly, including where the physics fights us.

המסקנה הכנה

Feasible — at short range, and best as a fusion layer.

Detecting the fiber is physically possible but hard, and difficulty varies wildly per method.

The most promising near-term path is passive optical / event-camera detection of the taut, sunlit fiber against sky: the fiber is provably visible in real battlefield photos, mature wire-detection AI & LIDAR prior art transfers directly, and it is the cheapest to prototype. The highest-upside research bet is catching the infrared light leaking out of the fiber (macrobend / spool / connector leakage at 1310 / 1550 nm) with a SWIR camera — an almost-unspoofable signature whose only unknown is how many photons leak at range, a number nobody seems to have published.

No fielded system today detects the fiber itself — vendors fall back to radar on the airframe. That gap is the opportunity. Most avenues work only at tens to low-hundreds of meters and pair best with conventional airframe detection (radar / acoustic / thermal), not as a replacement. False alarms — spider silk, power lines, guy-wires — are the real adversary, beaten by a polarization discriminator and sensor fusion.

מה אנחנו מנסים לראות

Two facts decide everything: the light is invisible infrared (1310/1550 nm — past the eye and past phone cameras), and the fiber is sub-millimeter and often dark-jacketed. Yet frontline photos show fields and trees draped in spent fiber — so it is optically resolvable at close range.

PropertyTypical value
Fiber outer diameter (coated)~0.25–0.9 mm (spec sheets cite ~0.35 mm)
Glass core / cladding9 µm core / 125 µm cladding (single-mode)
Jacketoften dark/black polymer — low-visibility by design
Operating wavelength1310 & 1550 nm infrared — not 850 nm, not visible
Tether / spool lengthtypically 5–20 km, prototypes 40–50 km
In-fiber attenuation~0.35 dB/km @1310 nm · ~0.20–0.25 dB/km @1550 nm

שישה כיוונים לגילוי

Ranked by the probability of a working, affordable, low-false-alarm detector within 1–3 years.

1

Passive optical / event-camera line detection

גילוי קו פסיבי במצלמה
Most promising

Physics. A taut fiber against bright sky is a high-contrast straight line; even a sub-pixel-wide line dims its pixel (partial occlusion), and a moving line is ideal for event cameras that fire on per-pixel brightness change — turning the line into a clean “time surface.”

Prior art. Skyshield (arXiv 2508.09397, MobiCom’25) does literally sub-millimetre thin-obstacle detection via event cameras — mean F1 ≈ 0.71 at 21.2 ms. UCorr handles “single-pixel/sub-pixel” wires (AUC ≈ 0.99). Decades of helicopter wire-strike CV/LIDAR transfer directly.

Why #1. Closest to existing working systems, cheapest, and uniquely yields the bearing of the tether → operator direction. Weakness (clutter false alarms, short range) is exactly what fusion fixes.

Range ~100–300 m (sky); tens of m in clutterFalse alarms: moderate–highCost: lowestVerdict: best near-term bet
2

Light leakage from the fiber (SWIR)

דליפת אור מהסיב — מצלמת SWIR
Highest upside

Physics — the most interesting idea. The video/control is light inside the glass. It escapes at macrobends (1550 nm is far more bend-sensitive), at the kilometer-long spool on the drone, and at connectors. A 1310/1550 nm-tuned IR/SWIR sensor could see a line that is self-luminous in exactly the telecom band — an almost-unspoofable signature.

Prior art. Clip-on fiber identifiers & VFLs detect live traffic by catching macrobend leakage with a photodiode every day — the physics is rock-solid. The only open question is magnitude at standoff.

Honest hard part. Launch power is modest, leakage is small, it spreads into ~2π then drops as 1/r². Daylight detection at hundreds of meters is very hard; likely near-field, favorable-geometry, or night/narrowband. But if detected, false-alarm rate is the lowest of any avenue.

Range: near-field (m to tens of m) by day; better at nightFalse alarms: lowestCost: medium–high (InGaAs SWIR)Verdict: fund this experiment
3

Active laser / LIDAR backscatter

החזר לייזר / LIDAR

Physics. A 0.1–0.9 mm glass cylinder is large vs. wavelength → Mie/geometric scattering with a forward-scatter lobe, specular glints, and ~3.4% Fresnel reflection per glass-air surface — a detectable return at the right angle.

Prior art. HOWARD helicopter LIDAR detects 1-inch (25 mm) wires at ≤200 m; our fiber is 30–100× thinner, so naive scaling cuts range hard. Encouragingly, lab laser scattering maps single ~µm spider-silk fibers with <3.5 mW — sub-10-µm transparent filaments do scatter detectably.

Best use. A short-range laser tripwire/fence the drone-fiber must cross — far more favorable than volumetric search.

Range: short for a moving sub-mm line; better as a fenceFalse alarms: moderate (dust, rain, insects)Cost: medium–highVerdict: confirmer / choke-point
4

Polarization & coherent signatures

חתימת קיטוב

Physics. A fiber under flight tension becomes stress-birefringent — it retards/rotates polarized light in a way twigs, dust and most clutter do not. Industry already measures 5–200 g tension in 125 µm fibers at ≤9 m/s via this retardation.

Best use. A cheap snapshot polarization camera bolted onto the Rank-1 pipeline, extracting a degree/angle-of-polarization channel that turns a generic “line” into a confident “glass fiber under tension.” It directly attacks Rank 1’s #1 weakness — false alarms.

Range: same as Rank 1 (it rides on it)False alarms: cuts them (that's the point)Cost: low (single-sensor)Verdict: add-on discriminator
5

Detect the airframe — the full modality stack

גילוי גוף הכטב״מ — כל המודאליות

The fiber removes only the radio link — the drone is still physical, noisy, warm, magnetized and visible. Each layer with its honest limit:

Radar / micro-Doppler — mass/motion + rotor-blade frequency shifts; works regardless of the silent link (Spotter Global claims dark/fiber tracks ~250–1,050 m). Limit: small low-flyers hide in clutter. Acoustic — a fiber drone sounds like any drone, so this is one of the most reliable layers when RF is silent (FPV ~200–300 m, bearing from a mic array). Limit: wind/ambient noise, quiet props. Thermal/IR — warm motors/battery, 24/7. Limit: dawn/dusk thermal crossover, weather. RF / motor EMI — the C2 link is gone; only faint motor EMI remains, catchable at metres–tens of metres. Verdict: demote to occasional confirmer. Magnetic — the drone is a tiny moving magnetic dipole; limit: field falls as ~1/r³ → single-metre, last-ditch close-pass confirmer only. EO + AI — see the airframe directly; the substrate the line-detector rides on.

AI is the brain. Computer vision spots/tracks the speck and rejects birds; sensor fusion combines these individually-weak channels into one calibrated confidence + bearing. AI raises awareness — it does not pull a trigger; it needs calibrated uncertainty, hard negatives, and a human in the loop.

Why it matters here. You cannot jam what does not transmit, so against FOG-D the counter is detection, not jamming. The tether detector's unique gift — operator bearing and “fiber-guided” classification — is the missing fusion layer. Design tether detection as a new layer cued by airframe sensors: radar/acoustic says “drone, bearing X” → point the line/leakage/polarization camera there.

Range: 100s of m – km (airframe)Mature; well-characterizedCost: variesVerdict: the host stack
6

Adjacent prior art to mine

ידע משיק להעברה

Power-line / cable detection (LIDAR & vision — helicopters, UAV inspection): mature thin-line CV, catenary fitting, and the documented truth that thin lines blend into terrain/sky and are caught only at limited range. Spider-silk optics: µm filaments detected by low-power laser scattering; model silk as scatterers, not reflectors. Distributed fiber sensing (OTDR/OBR/Φ-OTDR): sub-mm Rayleigh interrogation, and the reverse trick (VFL/clip-on identifiers prove leakage is catchable). Event-camera thin-obstacle work transfers wholesale — it is Rank 1.

ניסויים זולים שיוצר יכול לבצע

A · optical Can a camera see the line? Do this first ~$0–300

Empirically map detection range/contrast of a sub-mm line vs. background & lighting — directly de-risks the Rank-1 winner with hardware you may already own.

  1. String a real FPV fiber (~0.25–0.5 mm) — or stand-ins: 0.2 mm clear fishing line & 0.3 mm black fiber — outdoors.
  2. Photograph at 5, 10, 20, 40 m with a phone and a DSLR + 100–300 mm telephoto. Vary background: open sky (back/side-lit), sun behind line, foliage, dark terrain.
  3. Record where the line vanishes per background, and where sun glint makes it pop.
  4. Run a wire-detection CNN (UCorr-style / line U-Net / classical Hough+ridge); log precision/recall vs. range.
  5. Stretch: borrow an event camera (Prophesee EVK / iniVation DVXplorer), wave the line, replicate Skyshield-style time-surface detection.

Success = a range-vs-background detection curve. One afternoon tells you if Rank 1 is real for your optics.

B · leakage Is the fiber glowing in IR? Highest payoff ~$300–few-k

Measure macrobend/spool leakage at 1310/1550 nm and find the max standoff — the key unknown gating Rank 2.

  1. Drive a live fiber with a cheap 1550/1310 nm SFP/laser at realistic power; coil part as a spool, add tight bends.
  2. With an InGaAs SWIR camera (or InGaAs photodiode + lock-in) and a 1550 nm narrowband filter, image the bends/spool at 0.1, 1, 5, 10 m.
  3. Log irradiance vs. distance & bend radius; fit 1/r² to extrapolate max standoff, day vs. night.
  4. Trick: modulate the source (~1 kHz) and lock-in detect — pulls leakage out of solar background, like the real modulated video stream.

Success = the first number for “leakage photons vs. range.”

C · LIDAR Does a laser get a return? ~$200–1k

  1. Aim a collimated green/IR laser + photodiode (or camera) at the strung fiber; sweep incidence angle to find the specular glint / forward-scatter geometry.
  2. Measure return vs. range (5/10/20 m) and angle; test a laser-curtain “tripwire” geometry — does a fiber crossing produce a clean blink?
  3. Add a crossed polarizer to test polarization gating of the return.

D · polarization Fingerprint of a taut fiber ~$300–1k

  1. Use a polarization camera (or DSLR + rotating polarizer, 3+ angles) to image the fiber under tension vs. slack, against sky.
  2. Compute DoLP/AoLP; check whether the stress-birefringent fiber separates cleanly from power lines, twigs, spider silk.

Success = a polarization feature that turns a generic “line” into a confident “fiber” — the cheap false-alarm killer for Experiment A.

E · fusion Cue the camera with another sensor software-only

  1. Cue Experiment A's camera with an acoustic mic-array or a cheap radar/EO airframe detector: on “drone, bearing X,” point/crop the line detector at X.
  2. Measure how much fusion improves precision/recall and range — how a real Project-Noam layer would ship.

מגבלות והסתייגויות

מאין בא זה

Fiber-optic drones — context & specs
Avenue 1 — optical / event-camera thin-line detection
Avenue 2 — light leakage / macrobend / SWIR
Avenue 3 — laser / LIDAR backscatter; cable & silk
Avenue 4 — polarization / birefringence under tension
Avenue 5 — airframe detection / fusion

Full writeup with worked diffraction math and the complete source list: OPTIC-TETHER-DETECTION-RESEARCH.md in the Project Noam repository.

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